Artificial intelligence is going to change who has money and who does not. This week I brought in two people who understand that better than almost anyone.

Van Jones you know. Sheldon Gilbert you should. He is a technologist who has been building with AI since before it was a headline, and he sees exactly where the jobs, the agents, and the opportunities are heading. Together they walk through the AI revolution from the ground floor: what gets disrupted, what gets created, and why this is a make-or-break moment for Black and brown communities.

Van challenges us to stop romanticizing Black history and start building a Black future. Sheldon shows us what that future looks like in code. I sit in the middle and ask the questions you would ask.

This is not a tech talk. It is a survival guide, and it is a blueprint. Do not get left behind.

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▶️ Prefer to watch? The full conversation is on my YouTube channel.